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[b]mateo wrote:[/b]
[quote]Following on this idea, what we tried to do with Remembering Julia was show Helena Russell as being a person who once a psychologist (or at least this is suggested in Dragon’s Domain) and became a medical doctor. We wanted to suggest that following the death of her husband, she’d lost the ability for empathy. It affected her work, so she turned to a different branch of medicine. This is not to say she didn’t already hold creditials in that area, but it became her focus. She gradually opens up over the course of the series and let’s her “inner Barbara Bain” shine through.[/quote]Chock full of spoilers, so
[spoiler]Hmmm. Well, what I took away from “Remembering Julia” was not that she lost her ability to empathize, but rather this shutting-down of her emotions is something she has done to herself, not something that was done to her. She has (irrationally) refused to acknowledge Lee’s death by not allowing herself to grieve – she is holding on to a very tenuous thread, or an irrational hope. The whole situation with Julia just put her own situation front and center so that she couldn’t help but deal with it. She is, if nothing else, tenacious in her responsibilities as a physician, and yet she sits in her quarters in what amounts to a dereliction of duty. She would have stayed there, probably, if she had not been coaxed out.However, in “Futility”, would she have risked her life to save Jesse Franklin if she was so cold? (I think that was one of the points of the story, but I could be reading too much into it. There are lots of interesting bits in that story that could be explored.) Would she have struggled to reach Bob Matthias in [b]War Games[/b]? Would she have run out of Main Mission in [b]Space Brain[/b] to get to Kelly, at risk to her own life? I won’t count [b]The Immunity Syndrome[/b] – that was not really well thought out on Helena and Maya’s part.
There is some parallel here to her ability to so quickly accept Robert Koenig (in [u]Alpha[/u]) as her own flesh and blood, which he is not. It’s another irrational, heart-driven action. In one case (Lee Russell), she slams the lid shut on her heart, in the other (Robert Koenig), she opens it wide up and practically screams, “Stab me. Right here, in the left ventricle, where it’ll do the quickest harm.” It’s somehow another tenuous thread to grasp on to, because at some level, she must realize that the situation is not right. It was just waaaay too convenient. Somehow, she is blinded in both situations – blinders I think she herself put on. And in both situations, who made her see reason?
The reason I conclude these things is: Because Powys novels are “officially licensed”, I am willing to accept anything that is printed as canon (this is clearly only my opinion). So, from [u]The Forsaken[/u], it’s clear that this is her coping mechanism. She has had a reputation for being unfeeling since med school – a reputation based on perception, but not how it necessarily was. So, OK – her coping mechanism got the best of her. Her father died when she was young (her fault…?), and she was widowed young (regardless of which source you believe for the character’s age). Several instances in the Omnibus, at least one I can think of in [u]Born for Adversity[/u], and several times throughout [u]Omega[/u]/[u]Alpha[/u], she clamps down on her feelings. Listen to the fear in her voice when she’s taken by the Tritonians in [b]Ring around the Moon[/b]. Does she panic? No. When she’s lost in the snowstorm in [b]Death’s Other Dominion[/b], does she panic? No – she talks to herself saying she’s not behaving like a doctor, or at least not how she believes a doctor should act. When Alpha is about to be blown to itty bitty pieces in [b]AB Chrysalis[/b], what does she do? She smiles encouragement at Frasier. She only feels as much as she allows herself to feel, because [u]that[/u]’s what works.
Perhaps after a period of time the two states are indistinguishable, though. Dead is dead; it doesn’t matter ultimately how you get there.
Then there is the problem of continuity. Because the episodes were filmed so that they could be shown in syndication in any order, we have no idea when [b]MoLaD [/b]actually took place. We assume it was the second episode and therefore their first “adventure”, but not necessarily. JK and HR are pretty chummy already, yet JK makes the announcement of the landing party like it’s some momentous occasion. There is a lot of dialog to suggest that some time has passed, but no clue as to how much. So, the Astro Seven could have been lost in 1994, before the Ultra Probe, or after the Ultra Probe, (1996/7), if [b]MoLaD [/b]takes place much later in the series (there is the 5-year timeframe we have to accept). Therefore, either she could not have abandoned psychology/psychiatry right after the Astro Seven’s disappearance (first scenario), or else, she could have (second scenario). All depends on relative timing.
Then there is the Y1 writer’s guide, which states she is not a GP, nor meant to be (and pretty harshly delineated by Bob Mathias in his paranoid state in [u]Resurrection[/u]). Additionally, she didn’t get her position on Alpha by being a one-trick pony, by which I mean she was probably a good researcher, a savvy individual, and a skilled physician. I would postulate that Space Medicine encompasses physical, emotional, and psychological factors, and thus she never abandoned any one of those. (If pressed to “give” her an education, I’d say she was an MD-PhD. While I have worked with/for many MDs who were amazing researchers and clinicians, I have never met an MD-PhD who didn’t impress.)
“Remembering Julia” seems like it takes place fairly early on, but it must occur before [b]MoLaD[/b]. Now, if [b]MoLaD [/b]took place soon after [b]Breakaway[/b], with “Remembering Julia” just beforehand, it’s no wonder the poor woman was so messed up in [b]MoLaD[/b]. No wonder she cries after JK dies on Terra Nova. She must be thinking to herself, “This all really stinks – and now I am going to die all alone on this crummy planet.” [/spoiler]
I suppose this is my overly-analyzed way of saying that “Remembering Julia” never gave me the impression that she had removed herself from the role of a psychologist/psychiatrist and gone into straight physical medicine. Rather, she had just pulled her shroud so tightly around herself that no light could shine through. She didn’t empathize, not because she couldn’t, but because it hurt too much to do so, and thus didn’t let herself. A subtle distinction, perhaps, but it would account for her two-steps-forward-one-step-back progression through to [u]Alpha[/u]. And in this story, she did not succeed in saving Julia, so the whole incident really served only to make her face reality. I don’t know too awfully much about the so-called healing process, but I’d bet acknowledging you’ve got a gaping wound would be an early step.
It is interesting to note that Barbara Bain had relatively few lines of dialog throughout the series, something just over 1900, I think, if you check The Catacombs – and many of those lines are things like, “John?” , “John!” and Jooooohhhhn!!!!”. Therefore, much of what we infer about Helena Russell’s character comes largely from BB’s nonverbal communication, and how others act towards her. Odd how such a complex character – as written throughout the series and in the Powysverse – can come out of such small amount of material.
Whoa – did I go off-topic?
Patricia SokolParticipant[b]DavidW initially wrote:[/b]
[quote][quote][quote]Interesting line about more of the Alphan males seeming to “intuit Maya’s true nature” than the females. [….] I think I can see the possible meaning behind this, that the men appreciate her outward stoicism about it, and many of the women find it a little standoffish? [/quote]
[color=#800000][b] To which PatS replied:[/b]
I actually didn’t get this at all. When I first read it, I thought there was an implication about Maya’s being an attractive young women with whom Alphan women would have to compete. Believe me, I am not proud that this was the first thought that came into my head. Why would women be less intuitive? We’re not all catty. Gives us some more credit.[/color][/quote]
[b]And so DavidW clarified:[/b]
I didn’t think it was being about catty or lack of intuition. Well, the ‘catty’ possibility crossed my mind at some point when speculating on the meaning; but in my opinion, that didn’t seem to match the context content (Maya’s fast integration and little outward sign of distress) well. So I stuck with my interpretation of her reactions being interpreted as stoic by some and the same as standoffish by other characters. Just my 1.999 cents, anyway.Assuming this, however, I would guess that word about Maya’s breaking down and sobbing on Eagle 4 did not get around. On the other hand, it mentions Helena intervening on Maya’s behalf more than once, and maybe it was to point out things like how Maya had looked humiliated and in shock after finding out about Mentor’s actions, intervened of the Alphans’ behalf, and felt completely lost after that. This could have easily proven effective intervention on Maya’s behalf by Helena.[/quote]
OK – you’ve sold me, and I’m happy about that. I wasn’t too fond of my own interpretation.
As you read on to The Forsaken (assuming one hasn’t read it yet) and Shepherd Moon, you’ll see that Helena is portrayed much the same way, and that her stoicism is also interpreted as coldness, although her patina was probably developed over a period of years/events rather than one huge traumatic event. Therefore, their friendship/camaraderie is much more natural and understandable – after all, who can you let your hair down with other than someone who understands you?
-Pat.
Patricia SokolParticipantFYI: Received today in NJ.
Patricia SokolParticipantPhilippa Sidle
Patricia SokolParticipant[b]mateo wrote:[/b]
[quote]Android Planet and the rest of the 1970s original novels–I think most people know–hold a place of great respect in the heart of this fan… Obviously, the character of Rhoda never came to live on Alpha, so that aspect of Phoenix of Megaron is a stumbling block to considering the novel canon.[/quote]Not necessarily. PoM had to have taken place before The Forsaken, but just because she was not mentioned during that novel does not mean she was not there. However, she could be gone – for whatever reason, chicken pox or something equally War of the Worlds-like – before Survival. Then again, that would make her fate similar to the death of the Cryptidians, so that’s kind of a cop-out. Hmmm…What’s a good way to go without being too messy about it…? Saving Carter’s neck in an Alan-centered short story? “You saved my life once, now I give it to you freely that you might live. Good-bye Alan! Remember meeee…..” she says with her last gasp as her faceplate freezes over because there was only one spacesuit left with a functional life support unit left. (shrug)Dunno.
[quote]What would Y2 have been like with Rhoda?[/quote]
Instead of Maya, or in addition? If it was as you had thought, and it was [i]instead[/i], then I think Y2 with Rhoda would be like an additional Y1 Sandra. Not the Black Sun fainting Sandra, but the Breakaway/War Games (or even Android Planet) Sandra. In my mind, that is what she is like – a relatively ordinary person rising to the occasion in extraordinary circumstances. She had pluck, and she had fortitude, strength, and the courage of her convictions. Kind, thoughtful, and not shy.
Of the four, I enjoyed Phoenix of Megaron the most. It seemed to me to have the most accurate representations of where the Alphans and their relationships would be at that point: willing to talk, but wary; still looking for a place to live rather than (sometimes) resigned to their fate as wanderers; not adverse to taking down a planet or two out of righteous indignation.
[quote]Mateo[/quote]
Pat.Patricia SokolParticipant[b]Zack wrote:[/b]
[quote] But since the Omega/Alpha books contradict some aspects of Message from Moonbase Alpha I thought it could do with some clarification. Many thanks for your time.[/quote]I think if there is anything Powys does well, it is make you think things are going one way, then take them in another. I believe they have posted that MfMbA is [i][b]totally [/b][/i]canon; we need to trust them on this! But how it’s going to get there is anyone’s guess.
Patricia SokolParticipant[color=#800000]So, I missed out on the Metamorph, but hopefully I’ll get this in before the Next Episode is reviewed.
My comments on David’s posts, both here and at Metaforms, sort of mushed together for simplicity:[/color][quote]The original novelizations had chapters that were smaller than the original episodes, meaning it took a few chapters per episode. It did not label separate episodes. In some ways, that was fairly effective, trying to smooth over the “borders” between episodes. I’m not sure this always worked well in other ways, though. The Omnibus simply divides by episode name, eschewing chapter or numerical labeling at all (though this extended review still refers to these episodic division as chapters)… The original novelizations made it seem like the poor Alphans are barely finishing one crisis when they’re into the next…[/quote]
[color=#800000]In my mind, TV episodes are akin to short stories, so the system works pretty well for me. Plus, one thing happening after another would compress all of Y2 into much less than the 6 or so years that the status reports suggest.[/color][quote]Also, there is an additional transition between the first and second stories of Y2, namely of a new member of Alpha, Maya. ..[/quote]
[color=#800000]I think the whole opening scene is greatly improved in the Omnibus. The transition to The Exiles in the original novelization was quite abrupt, and really the opening of the episode abrupt as well. Helena goes from a brief dictation to going into CC (The room wasn’t even blue…Ahhhhh…they are all underground now, so what is the point of even mentioning it? Oh, well. I like the idea of early morning, in any event. Sets the scene much better.)[/color][spoiler][quote]The Omnibus added more detail, some based on a summary of an event newly-posited to occur between “Metamorph” and “Exiles” that I’m unfamiliar with (just something to add further background, or is it a loose end to an unpublished story?)…[/quote]
[color=#800000]Mateo has recently posted that this is, in fact, The Whispering Seas, by J.K. Muir. [/color][/spoiler][quote]Interesting line about more of the Alphan males seeming to “intuit Maya’s true nature” than the females. At first, the line seemed kind of dropped in there. (I’m not sure if it was in the original novelizations, but that’s not really the point here.) At first, I wasn’t sure if it was leading to anything or just an observation made in passing. However, it does refer to recognition about trying to deal with tragedy, with implications elsewhere in this chapter about Maya largely just not talking about it much at these early stages, so I think I can see the possible meaning behind this, that the men appreciate her outward stoicism about it, and many of the women find it a little standoffish? [/quote]
[color=#800000]I actually didn’t get this at all. When I first read it, I thought there was an implication about Maya’s being an attractive young women with whom Alphan women would have to compete. Believe me, I am not proud that this was the first thought that came into my head. Why would women be less intuitive? We’re not all catty. Gives us some more credit. (Ack – Art imitating life, if you have read about Barbara Bain’s supposed reluctance to have Catherine Schell on the show…Though how much of that is true and how much is conjecture is anyone’s guess)[/color][quote]In terms of Maya starting to adjust, there was good replacement for that in the new novelization. … Helena’s mostly happy about the progress, though, seeming almost giddy at one point (worded in a way, however, that I had trouble making sense of it). [/quote]
[color=#800000]??[/color][quote]Oh, that reminds me…. I had to chuckle at a good line Helena used in discussing that incident for her log: “Following events on the planet Ekimmu—already recorded on film….” [/quote]
[color=#800000]Truth be known, I cringed a bit at the anachronism (film?!?!?), though it is consistent with the video recording in “BoW”[/color].[quote]Also, there is more on Helena and Maya starting to become friends, and Maya learning about human culture… This scene adds more “behind the scenes” detail not present in the episode. This also leads up to the practical joke the two women play on John. [/quote]
[color=#800000]Yes – although while the Omnibus and the original novelizations have more detail that leads up to that scene, if you go to the Catacombs and check out the script-to-screen, the entire scene (greatly truncated on-screen) is a much better than either. Even a bit of foreshadowing re: Helena’s scratching Cantor at the end. Too bad that couldn’t have made it into the Omnibus. (An aside – at your archives, David, there is a clever comment in the ExE discussion of this episode. Something about what the heck was Helena thinking, letting the new girl kiss her man?)[/color][quote]Tony is not so sure about making her into Alpha’s science officer… Interestingly, the two novel versions use a similar line of dialogue, that in the original fell flat, but that in the revision rings much more true … This is an improved approach, story-wise, with more depth to the initial stages of this, with more subtly … (and) … it rings much more true here. [/quote]
[color=#800000]Amen. As originally written, ABC follows right on heels of The Metamorph. He “fancies” her already? Oi. In the Omnibus, not only is the discussion between JK and Tony much more believable, but it also establishes something of a fraternal relationship between JK and Tony.[/color][quote]In my opinion, there was one problem with the original novelization’s attempt to smooth the way from “Metamorph” to ABC, however… I appreciated the inter-episode bridging attempt, but do not know how the choice of episode came about…Equally improved in various other ways is how the reordering of the novelizations is how this prompted the dropping of the very rapid transition in the earlier version from “Metamorph” to ABC.[/quote]
[color=#800000]While I understand some of the grouping of the stories for the 70’s novelizations, tying them together with a common theme, having these in production order (and for the most part, the order they aired) makes a whole lot more sense in character development. The titles of the individual novelizations suggest a common theme among the stories, so I’d guess this was the basis of the ordering.[/color][quote]… other aftermath from Psychon, including how the loss of three people at Psychon — and damage the moonbase took — hit morale as well.[/quote]
[color=#800000]What is interesting, and I never thought of it until this moment, was that the first episode of Y2, and the last, both had Alpha withstanding incredible destruction because (indirectly/directly) of Maya. I’m sure there was any number of people who wished they could call Taybor back to take her away once and for all.[/color][quote]There is good depth added to a point already made in Y1 and in “The Exiles” episode itself, about life support limitations… One of the interesting points of the episode and the novelizations is the life support problem…[/quote]
[color=#800000]Ya know, what were they thinking when they designed Life Support Systems to run on rare materials. Not very forward-thinking, and thank goodness the Omnibus straightened out the continuity so they weren’t looking for titanium one week (rare? C’mon), milgonite the next, and tiranium at the end. (I think tiranium is the WD40 or duct tape of the 1999 universe.) And thank you, Powys, for having the laser slide to where Zova was standing, instead of puma/Maya pacing about while Zova had a chance to reach it. Lots of lack of continuity between the intelligent dove (The Metamorph) and wise owl (New Adam, New Eve) and a puma that just walks around waiting to be stunned.[/color][quote]Also effective is how John tries to draw on his relationship with Helena at one point, in a way she does not like, rebuffing this at that moment. No real relationship is without its awkward moments. There are more signs of John and Helena’s relationship, not only in the more relaxed scenes, but in other ways… “Realism” that every real relationship has its occasional fault lines or missteps. [/quote]
[color=#800000]You ain’t seen nuthin’, yet.
Their occasional clashes are some of the most realistic situations in the whole series. In the oft’- reviled “All That’s Glisters” there is a slight exchange between them when he is saying something and she is trying to get his attention. He turns to her and snaps, “What?” This did not make it into either novelization, but I’m not sure how you could convey his tone if it was included. It sounds like an exchange between people who have a stable relationship. I feel fairly confident in saying we’ve all used that tone at one time or another.[/color][quote]I had some problems with the novelizations (both versions) having John bring Helena’s clay self-sculpture to Command Center… I just thought it was out of character for him, … The broadcast episode having all this happening in quarters instead, with John, Zova, and Maya being the only ones present…. The latter seems more “in character” for John, and I think was a subtle development for Maya as well, that he brings her along. [/quote]
[color=#800000]Again, amen. I think the difficulty they had to struggle with was why he would take Zova back to his quarters to discuss the situation? Except, perhaps, to make it a private conversation. It’s a weak plot point. Perhaps if Zova had waved her hand and made the bust appear, translocated from his quarters to the desk, or something along those lines, it would have been stronger.[/color][quote]The events in the Golosian control center felt somewhat more compressed in the episode, with the main plot events present but less of the cat and mouse of Cantar vs. Helena, and Cantar aging faster… The aging, otherwise in common with the episode of course, has always struck me as highly fictional — but one I’ve never had trouble “suspending disbelief” over. [/quote]
[color=#800000]Cat and mouse doesn’t work well on the page. How to capture the lighting used to highlight her hiding, or her shuffling back on the floor as he stalks her? The aging? Without the beard and hair growth, it would have been easier to suspend my disbelief.[/color][quote]There’s something about preserved ancestors that I did not entirely follow on first read…[/quote]
[color=#800000]Beats pyramids. [/color][quote]Koenig decides they cannot take on 53 more people here. This was an already understandable difficulty in the series, including in this situation where it interferes with what at first seems like the chance to rescue 50+ people…There is also Koenig’s suspicion about Cantar and Zova. Though he’s always been pretty canny about such things, he still takes some striking actions here…[/quote]
[color=#800000]Alphans, and JK in particular, can sometimes be seen as generous to a fault. They respond to distress signals over and over and over again, or try to help again and again, and it gets them into trouble. Mission of the Darians, The Last Enemy, The Infernal Machine, The End of Eternity, Deaths Other Dominion (can’t blame them there, though), The Exiles, The Mark of Archanon, Brian the Brain, Dorzak…Powys novels old and new. Guys, I’m all for altruism, but…? [/color][quote]So this novelization stands well with the broadcast episode, adding more detail (positive), making some changes that often work but sometimes didn’t for this reviewer. There is a lot more character depth added, even if occasionally at the cost of compressing the plot slightly in a few points (a more than fair tradeoff in this particular case), while themes remain intact, or are improved with drawing more on past incidents as a continuity of Alphan experience…[/quote]
[color=#800000]As you read on, David, there are more things you’ll appreciate as far as continuity and gaping plot holes are concerned.[/color][quote]There is bitterness and remaining mourning over the loss of Victor, and the circumstances of betrayal, that run deep, particularly in Koenig. John being Victor’s close friend and Commander of Alpha, and responsible for the decision to trust the Leira, is taking the loss of Victor hard, and this is well-threaded through the revised “Exiles” novelization, in appropriate places. Butterworth uses this new background to explain well some of Koenig’s reactions, in more detail than the episode had. [/quote]
[color=#800000]Read on, my friend, read on.[/color][quote]Also, I’ve always found it interesting that Tony, generally untrusting at first but never paranoid (IMO), is actually more trusting of Cantar than Koenig is…[/quote]
[color=#800000]I think Tony is still getting his chops at this point, because he far less suspicious here than other episodes, even One Moment of Humanity.[/color][quote]This novelization version also “restores” the ending of the episode, as a denouement that works better in this case than just trying to launch directly into the next encounter…[/quote]
[color=#800000]One of the least disappointing “light” endings. Revenge is a dish best served at 0 degrees Kelvin.I have always wondered how this episode would have been treated if it had been filmed for Y1 as originally planned. As written in the Omnibus, it’s actually quite Y3-ish.
-Pat.[/color]
Patricia SokolParticipantThere is just the Carlton Y2, not Network – that’s the one I meant. I read some place that Network was planning on releasing Y2, not sure if they actually did…? Sorry for any confusion.
I have access to the 30th Anniversary set , that’s why I was wondering is picking up the Network version was any better.
-P.
Patricia SokolParticipantWell, it took very little prodding and thus I ordered Y1 from Amazon.uk, and a multi-region (or regionless, I don’t know) upconverting DVD player, for not so bad a price. Y2 is well over $150, so that’s gonna hafta wait.
Also:
[b]blatham wrote:[/b]
[quote][spoiler]As a general rule — if it helps the Alphans, it’s BadMike, if it hurts the Alphans, it’s GoodMike. As a further branch, however, if you don’t have Helena, you don’t have Robert — BadMike’s all about having Robert around. However, never forget the Space Brain was NOT addressed in Omega/Alpha — it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that there’s something else out there messing with everything and everyone…including the MUFs.[/spoiler][/quote]Yes, although [spoiler]if Helena had been pulled apart into little mesons and so forth, there would have been no need for Robert, because his primary role was to play with her head.
A more far-reaching implication, as i see it, is when, as AltHelena is picking up after AltRobert, asking him to take his dishes to the sink, and so forth, and telling him that the universe does not revolve around him, he would be able to truthfully reply that [b]that [/b]one did.[/spoiler] (she responds to the author who gave us these points to ponder in the first place…)
And, yes, Mateo, if you’re reading this, I have said that, thanks so much. More recently than I’d care to admit, considering how bright the full moon was this month. :side:
P.
edit – [spoiler]OK – perhaps not his primary role, but right up there. Is there 100% synchronicity between the universes? Lilliana existed despite Bob Matthias’ death. RK could have represented what [b]might [/b]have been, had she not been on the survival ship. Then, we could throw guilt into the pot and let that fester, too. Sorry is this is too speculative-ish. I was just thinking, you know, about everything that might have been. [/spoiler]
Patricia SokolParticipantSo, I was watching “Black Sun” last evening, and I started thinking [spoiler] we know the MUFs hopped a ride when the Alphans went through the black sun/hole, but did it say in either [u]Omega [/u]or [u]Alpha [/u]that it was they who protected the Alphans? If so, what was the motivation for keeping the Eagle safe, or bringing it along (it will be interesting to see which way Powys goes with this; the novelization and the episode are 180 degrees different in how the Eagle came through).
What I’m wondering is…why would BadMike bring the Eagle through? Helena led the charge against Koenig in “Collision Course”, and Sandra was certainly unsupportive of the whole bang into the planet idea. On the other hand, Alan was like the back-up man for JK, so why would GoodMike want to see him saved? Why would GoodMike want to see the moon preserved over-all? Was it another struggle – one protected the moon, one protected the Eagle?[/spoiler]
Any ideas about this, or if can anyone point me in the right direction? (No pun intended. OK – Maybe a little one.)
Also, can anyone tell me if it is worth investing in a region-free DVD player and to pick up the Network release of the two seasons? Is the picture/audio quality that much better?
Thanks,
Pat.Patricia SokolParticipantI do regret that I did not order one of the first 100 Y2 Omnibus volumes. Admittedly, the $$ scared me off a bit, but that was a misstep. I ended up ordering one of the second 100 released, and it have enjoyed it. Throw your spare change into a jar at the end of each day and you’ll have the price covered in no time.
-P.
Patricia SokolParticipant[b]admin wrote:[/b]
[quote]PowysCon East will be held on Sunday, June 6th at approximately 2:00 PM in midtown Manhattan — we’re planning on meeting at a certain hotel where a certain past convention was held and then moving on to another location.Cover artist Ken Scott will be in attendance![/quote]
🙂
-Pat.
Patricia SokolParticipantDon’t know for sure, but I’m thinking go to the topic and click [b]unsubscribe[/b]. As for doing it right from the get-go, I guess right after you post you could click that button. This is just a guess, though.
-Pat.
Patricia SokolParticipant[b]mateo wrote:[/b]
[quote]Cricket talked about the wreckage of alien craft on the Moon. John Rankine, in Android Planet, talks about the wreckage of Gwent and the Voyager black box. Interesting![/quote]:ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: AAaaahhhh!! :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:
Danger, Will Robinson, danger!
Non-canonical! Non-canonical!
:kiss:
Actually, I thought Rankine had the best “sense” of the characters of the Y1 novelizers, or whatever you’d call them. I enjoy his writing.
-P.
Patricia SokolParticipantAnd by the way – although this is not really Y3 related – there are certain little things that are wonderful subtle yet meaningful changes. For example, in the Y2 Omnibus edition of “One Moment of Humanity” having Zarl’s advances amount to assault rather than seduction is much more in keeping with JK’s reaction and HR’s character. There are, indeed, many of these small sentences and changes that crop up that do answer some things.
-P.
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