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[b]SPACE: 1999 [/b]is to be re-imagined and a new tv series is going to be produced. I found out about this via fb this evening. It’s real. It’s happening. SPACE: 2099 is coming. No, not the misguided (imho) fan version with all new CGI sequences, but a completely new reboot for the series. No doubt filled with sex, violence, talentless young actors with little or no screen presence whatsover & everything else re-designed & ruined! News of this… has left me… reeling in distress because it will probably mean that ITV America & co. will want to direct attention away from the original series & onto the new one.
This, as has sometimes happened in the past, [i]may[/i] mean that Powys will lose its licence to produce original fiction set in the original, classic [b]SPACE: 1999[/b] universe.
I can’t tell you all how upset I am about this possibility 🙁
Bill, Mateo… what are your thoughts on this?
Why can’t these people leave classic tv series like [b]SPACE: 1999[/b], Knight Rider & The Prisoner (to name but 3) alone & do something new & original instead! :’-(
I think it’s really premature to say anything about revoking a license. and why would they? anything new is going to be years away (if ever, I highly doubt this is going to get made) and as well, they’d be 2 very different properties with 2 different titles. I don’t see how 2099 would infringe on 1999, just as I don’t think the recent Prisoner tele-movie impacted the Prisoner license.
[url=http://www.space2099theseries.com/content.php/140-ITV-Studios-America-and-HDFILMS-to-re-imagine-and-develop-new-sci-fi-series-SPACE-2099]2099 series homepage[/url], with some odd-looking eagle artwork (what’s with the black bubbles in the window slots?)
and a ship named Asimov? really?Hold the phone…I just read something the other day about the 2099 fan folks planning a new series, and it sounded like Nick Tate and Juliet Landau were involved. Is this something different…or what?
Just to clarify based upon what I have been reading. Space 2099 with Nick Tate and Juliet Landau is a fan backed project. The new one is and ITC backed project that is already looking dodgy. I don’t know how many times I can say this; LEAVE OUR BELOVED EAGLES, HAWKS AND MOONBASE ALONE! I really don’t understand the need to fiddle with perfectly good designs. The money they pay to their art department to get new designs could instead be used to secure the rights to use the originals. The Eagle is still a magnificent bird and it would be truly grand to see it fly again. Lets hope the powers that be are listening and take the fan’s advice. LEAVE OUR BELOVED EAGLES, HAWKS AND MOONBASE ALONE!
And, just in case they missed it.
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[quote]Just to clarify based upon what I have been reading. Space 2099 with Nick Tate and Juliet Landau is a fan backed project[/quote]
Interesting…because if you go to the website for the new project, Nick Tate is right there front and center.
Anyway, I see no reason to panic over the models yet. The re-do of Battlestar Galatica had both new models and the old. Maybe they can do the same thing?
[b]Zack wrote:[/b]
[quote][size=5][b]LEAVE OUR BELOVED EAGLES, HAWKS AND MOONBASE ALONE! LEAVE OUR BELOVED EAGLES, HAWKS AND MOONBASE ALONE! LEAVE OUR BELOVED EAGLES, HAWKS AND MOONBASE ALONE! LEAVE OUR BELOVED EAGLES, HAWKS AND MOONBASE ALONE! LEAVE OUR BELOVED EAGLES, HAWKS AND MOONBASE ALONE! [/b][/size][/quote]
Don’t hold back, Zack. Tell us how you really feel.
I feel oddly unexcited at the news. Could be because I looked at the list of ITV America productions and was reminded of why I no longer subscribe to any cable or satellite. Guess we’ll need to play the waiting game.
Why would they revoke the license? Star Trek was reimagined yet there’s still plenty of licensed ST:TOS fan fiction coming out monthly? Same with the fiction of Battlestar Galactica:OS vs that of the reimagined series. So long as they’re making money off the licensing of our SP:99 timeline, why cut off new fiction in this timeline?
Do not panic just yet, folks. It may be that this doesn’t get too much beyond the planning phase. And if it does, take the advice that JKM gave over on his blog and others here have already stated: judge it on its own terms, for every reboot is different, and some can be successful.
I can’t help but hope that anyone who thinks that SPACE:1999 is an interesting property to revisit simply has to see dramatic value in it, and not be the types who would dismiss it as hokey or camp, else they WOULD have passed it over.
So…cautious optimism…
The Prisoner was remade a few years ago. We still have that license. Who knows, maybe Jace Hall will want tie-in novels or novelizations…
[quote]Who knows, maybe Jace Hall will want tie-in novels or novelizations… [/quote]
Yeah, I would think anyone who writes for Space: 1999 now would welcome the possibilty of having another outlet for their talents.
Steven F makes a valid point. His opinions and thoughts certainly mirror(echo)my own. I, for one, don’t want to see Space:1999 remade. It was bad enough that Battlestar Galactica and V were remade. Let alone Thunderbirds.
The film industry really needs to leave the classics the way they are. Untouched and unblemished. There have been far too many remakes in the past ten years, and there should be no more remakes period.
Seriously, it is just ridiculous to tamper with a work of art. It’s as bad as re-painting Michelangelo’s beautiful creation on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, itself.
If ITC sanctions this huge mistake, then Space:1999’s reputation will be permanently tarnished. And in a very negative way.
:angry 🙁 :
I disagree. I would guess that part of the reason most of us welcomed and now enjoy the Powys Space:1999 novels is because it felt like there were many more stories in that universe that needed to be told.
A new series could, if done well, not only honor the past series, but fulfill the original goals of Space:1999. Though I felt the recent V redo was less than it could’ve been, I thought the BSG remake was quite good. Not perfect, no. But I think we can probably all agree that the original BSG series was far from perfect too. And it had a very short run.
Really, it is like arguing original Star Trek versus Next Generation. Can you honestly say that STNG was a bad idea???
[b]kerry wrote:[/b]
[quote]Really, it is like arguing original Star Trek versus Next Generation. Can you honestly say that STNG was a bad idea???[/quote]Sorry Kerry, I disagree. TNG was a genuine continuation of/sequel to TOS (as DS9 & VOY were sequels to/continuations of TOS & TNG) & each, paid tribute in their own way to their origins with the episodes “Trials & Tribble-ations” & “Flashback”). SPACE: 2099 is a “re-imagining/reboot” of [b]SPACE: 1999[/b]. Chalk & Cheese imho. TNG was a fantastic continuation of TOS. It wasn’t a re-make. & therein lies the [i]significant[/i] difference between the two (the two being 1999 v 2099).
EVERY other re-imagining of other classic series & films has left me… not lukewarm, but utterly, UTTERLY cold towards them. Terrible, soul-less travesties the lot of them imho.
I am one of those people who wants to watch something NEW. Something fresh & imaginitive. I want the classic TV series (like the 3 I mentioned in my original post) & Films (such as “Psycho” & “The Haunting”) left well alone.
Look at the legendary British TV series “Sapphire & Steel”. A re-boot/sequel was blocked by its creator & head writer P J Hammond (an immensely talented British Genre Writer). The original series was very dark & theatrical. Had ITV done a new series, they wanted the main characters re-cast with sexy young actors & everything done on film with straightforward, happier action/adventure storylines. You could argue that this is [size=4]*[b]NOT[/b]* [/size]what Sapphire & Steel IS, therefore, he was right to block the re-make/re-imagining to protect the integrity of the original, definitive version of his concept.
Some things should be left well alone. I for one, will NOT support ANY re-make of this series. That is my choice. If others want to jump on the bandwagon that is this “re-imagining”: feel free. All I want is for the original series to be left alone & for Powys to continue to be able to release books set in the original, unforgettable, incomparable, irreplaceable [b]SPACE: 1999[/b] universe that features those characters as portrayed by those actors.
Oh, & btw, if you have no idea what “Sapphire & Steel” is, check this out:
[b]Papillon wrote:[/b]
[quote]Steven F makes a valid point. His opinions and thoughts certainly mirror (echo) my own. I, for one, don’t want to see Space:1999 remade. It was bad enough that Battlestar Galactica and V were remade. Let alone Thunderbirds.The film industry really needs to leave the classics the way they are. Untouched and unblemished. There have been far too many remakes in the past ten years, and there should be no more remakes period.
Seriously, it is just ridiculous to tamper with a work of art. It’s as bad as re-painting Michelangelo’s beautiful creation on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, itself.
If ITC sanctions this huge mistake, then Space:1999’s reputation will be permanently tarnished. And in a very negative way.
:angry 🙁 :[/quote]
We are, as is always the case, very much in the minority Papillon.
And you know what?
That’s OK 😉
I love the original [b]SPACE: 1999[/b] TV SERIES (as all of you do) as filmed, as written & as shown, featuring those actors portraying those characters, with no CGI effects with my whole heart. Despite it’s many faults/failings (both Year 1 AND Year 2 have faults and failings), its faults & failings are [i]as nothing [/i]compared to its triumphs & its (dare I say it): daring subversion of the genre as well as its rejection of all the rules, especially the ones that say “this is what you must do to make an enjoyable, classic science fiction tv series!”. [b]SPACE: 1999 [/b]said b”llocks to all that & charted (in Year One) its own course. I don’t want or *need* a re-make. What I want/need are more Powys(verse) novels that fill in the gaps (historically) and continue the odyssey of the original Alphans of [b]SPACE: 1999[/b] beyond the end of Year 2.
The only really good thing that could come out of this re-imagining is that Bill Latham & John Kenneth Muir might be approached to write scripts for it. They’d be fools to turn down such an opportunity but tbh, I’d rather they do so, favouring the original tv series & the Powys(verse) novels as the “definitive” version(s)/continuation(s) of the original concept. They won’t be asked though. They’d write something with far too much depth. Young, sexy actors in spandex wouldn’t know what to do with the material… other than ruin it.
[b]kerry wrote:[/b]
[quote]I would guess that part of the reason most of us welcomed and now enjoy the Powys Space:1999 novels is because it felt like there were many more stories in that universe that needed to be told. [/quote]On this, we agree Kerry.
There’re many, MANY more stories to be told but in [i]that[/i] universe – the original [b]SPACE: 1999[/b] universe with [i]those[/i] characters as portrayed and envisioned/brought to life by [i]those[/i] actors & writers.
Yes, there will be many stories to tell in SPACE: 2099. Different stories with different characters (who bear many of the same names as their 1970’s forebears but who are virtually unrecognisable when put side by side with those similarly named 1970’s characters!) Is this a good thing? No! (again, it’s just my imho). Does that proposition interest me? Not in the least.
Leave the original characters alone. Do something new & let the folks at Powys carry on doing what they’re doing… which is utterly fantastic! B)
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